I believe at this point it is clear that DUTV is the only one who can convince investors to buy. Despite the speculation of what DUTV may have or not have the share price is very low. I think you are right if DUTV had anything to attract investors the back and forth conversation here and elsewhere is a non factor. It doesn't matter what any of us say, DUTV so far has shown itself for what it is. Until they prove they actually are IPTV I don't think we see major movement in share price. I think it will continue to trade like it has this year. Maybe we'll see another spike to .002?