Yes I agree and well said.  I feel like I am in the same boat with Joey.  I am set back and disappointed that others label us as bashers.  I am an investor also.  I lost a lot of money also.  I have been long since June and spent every penny in these 2 stocks only to watch them dilute AEGY to no end.  So that basically means 7 months of red.  I agree that it is extremely insensitive for others to say sell and go away.  And apparently some find it offensive for me to say that I am now going to day trade half my shares to make back some of my losses.  I simply don't think management is the dream team anymore, at least not right now, but I hope they are able to get the pps back up.  In the meantime, if I have to day trade to make back some of my losses and people find that offensive then so be it.  But I am certainly not going to sugar coat things when some things are not OK with me.  Believe me, I want this to go to the moon, but what if it doesn't?