1st post, born 10-16-2013 Hmm, curious? Lots you said is true, how about some other board  (non-employees now) members that sold their shares that are now in float and loan conversion, that why o/s is high, if share price was up in pennies, wouldn't be that much o/s, but since say share price was .01, they get it at like .004 or so! That a lot of shares. That the way it works. Why you think so many promos happen, it cause who ever the shares were given to where hoping to make a lot of money in promo and they pay for it!